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Post by Gilberto on Jul 22, 2012 12:21:50 GMT -5
Greg and Sean talk about the Avengers, what went wrong with the Green Lantern movie, the People vs. George Lucas, and the new Aaron Sorkin drama, The Newsroom. Episode 158 |
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Post by gretl on Jul 27, 2012 12:57:29 GMT -5
Loved to hear you talk about The Avengers; been waiting for that. Joss really was the perfect man for the job, wasn't he? For the reasons you said plus, PLUS ... his uncanny ability to cohese (yes that's a word. I just made it up. Suck it, spellcheck.) a random ensemble cast together into a believable team, if not downright family. And in a way that mostly feels organic (although the Colson thing was a tad heavy-handed if you ask me.)
I am over the moon that science and smarts are sexy now ... I could watch Tony and Bruce do research all day long ... "Finally! Someone who speaks English!"
THANK YOU for elucidating why Green Lantern didn't work for me. I just couldn't put my finger on it. Gah. That damn double open put me off-kilter for the whole movie; it never did find its pacing, did it?
Not sure about the "not needing an origin story" for superhero/superpower movies. I kind of think that's what's making them commercially successful these days. Like with The Avengers... my daughter's only complaint was that Hawkeye hadn't had his own movie yet so he just seemed thrown in there. Heh. Can't say's I disagree.
Don't bother trying to understand pinterest; by the time you do, it will be gone, mark my words. Might want to bone up on Tumblr though.
BROOX BROOX BROOX! What do we have to do to get some Broox on the air again, huh???
Also? Greg has a great Vader voice.
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Post by Gilberto on Jul 27, 2012 16:30:03 GMT -5
If you want to talk to Brooks, just say "Star Wars" and he'll appear. He's like a magical Star Wars elf. But I wouldn't hold out much hope for his return to the show.
I agree about the Colson thing; Whedon's gotta kill someone though. It's his way.
They did their best to introduce Hawkeye in the Thor movie, but the Avengers is essentially his coming out. At least now he's out there so we don't have to keep questioning why the most powerful superteam in the world needs an archer.
I think origins are important but they're overblown. Re-telling Spider-man's origin was totally unnecessary in the new movie, even though they did well with it. Green Lantern's origin is kind of pointless; he's a space cowboy fighting alien bad guys. That would have made a better movie.
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Post by gretl on Jul 28, 2012 9:39:41 GMT -5
Killing Colson was fine, it was explicitly stating "this is what we needed to bring us all together" that was off-putting. (I started to say it was non-Whedonesque, then I remembered Mal's "I aim to misbehave" speech in Serenity. (Another vote for a "how we would have done it" on that one, btw).) Almost like some exec stepped in at the last minute and insisted the audience wouldn't understand unless the script said it. And then emphasized it again. I almost felt patronized.
Who knows. Maybe they left a chunk of "show" on the cutting room floor and had to stick in some "tell" at the last minute.
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Post by Gilberto on Jul 28, 2012 17:41:18 GMT -5
I think that goes to Whedon's need to show us that Fury is manipulative, but it does translate into revealing Whedon's need to be manipulative. Interesting.
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Post by Glip on Aug 3, 2012 3:23:41 GMT -5
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Post by Gilberto on Aug 3, 2012 17:24:52 GMT -5
That's cool. I'd be happier if they would re-boot the X-Men franchise, but I'm happy to see they're still working to do something cool with it. Hopefully they'll do more with that story than they did with Dark Phoenix.
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