Star Trek Vs Star Wars

[lynn]

How it should have ended brings up this in its Star Trek short.
www.howitshouldhaveended.com/videos?bcpid=51434042001&bclid=41247345001&bctid=68701708001

[Gilberto]

Star Trek has always pretended to be more sophisticated because it claimed to be real science fiction instead of space fantasy, but the "science" in Star Trek is always fantasy-oriented with not actual basis in physics. At least Star Wars runs with it, with laser swords and space jets.

But the new Star Trek is better than the new Star Wars, so maybe they're finally getting the right idea.

[lynn]

Also, would the Vulcan nerve pinch work on Vadar? He has a metal suit on and he's mostly a robot!

[professordave]

The Federation is saddled with a very pronounced anti-robot bias, which will really hurt them when the droid armies are sent in. Heck, the Federation had all they could handle with the Borg collective, and they were only half robotic.

[lynn]

Although, as Sean has pointed out in Star Trek world if you take something electric with flashing lights and wave something with flashing lights and beeps over it... you get the point, I'm pretty sure Kirk could just wave his sonic screwdriver at Vadar and recalibrate his robot body. Or the Death Star.

[drivebyluna]

(Finally, I get to apply my interpreter training). From my point of view, it seems like the Federation is made weak from its adherence to the Prime Directive. Instead of being teutologists, looking at the consequences of their actions, they instead adhere to rigid principles that seem to screw them over and over again.

[Gilberto]

The Federation also seems to screw with everything until they don't feel like it. There's a really annoying episode of TNG (mirrored by an annoying episode of Enterprise with the same plot) where the planet is breaking apart and they can't same anyone because of the Prime Directive. The directive is intended to keep Starfleet from disrupting the natural evolution of a developing culture. If the culture is about to die out because the planet is exploding, the Prime Directive doesn't apply.

You could probably just lock your transporter on Darth Vader, beam him out, and never re-materialize him. Suck that, midiclorians.

[lynn]

You know, many scientists today have the same philosophy about animals in the wild, for very good reasons, things have been stuffed royally by scientists trying to study. However, in the case where something is obviously going to die on its own, like a lion cub abandoned by its mother in the bushes and wounded and stuff... I always think that it might be nice to harvest these little things that would be out of the game anyway for the zoos and such. If you want to keep the whole circle of life thing going you can always chuck out a steak for the vultures and ants and things, and the poor little one doesn't have to die.

I think you could transport or whatever to Vadar because he never seems to know a thing about what's going on around him. Only about Luke really.

[drivebyluna]

So what about endangered species where we've already interfered with them? Do photographers help those or are they still not allowed?

[Gilberto]

The Jurassic Park conundrum! Is it interference to save a species selected for extinction or is it okay if our interference may have caused it? But species drive each other to extinction as part of the natural order, so isn't that interference part of the plan? And if species drive each other to extinction in nature, is it unethical to let the door swing the other way? If it's hubris to interfere, isn't it also hubris to decide when it's morally okay not to?

That's why I like Kirk. "The Prime Directive is malleable to my interpretation of the circumstances." That's his motto.

[lynn]

Also, he'd have punched that T-Rex right in the nose; problem solved! But Kirk, there was the bigger issue of biological- PROBLEM SOLVED!!!!!