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Post by Gilberto on Sept 12, 2011 16:23:53 GMT -5
Sean, Lynn and Rusty discuss Apollo 18 and its impact to the "found footage" mock doc genre. How does it compare to the Blair Witch Project or the more recent Rec, its American counterpart Quarantine, or Paranormal Activity? Is this a bold new step for the genre or is it jumping the shark just like every other time horror goes to space? Also, a look at Trollhunter and a brief word on the remakes of Don't Be Afraid of the Dark and Fright Night. traffic.libsyn.com/darkcrazy/TVAMD_apollo18.mp3 |
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Post by Scary Gary on Sept 18, 2011 17:04:57 GMT -5
Just got done listening to this one. For some reason, I didn't see downloaded until yesterday.  I have to disagree with a number of points. As bad as Apollo 18 sounds, I doubt it is the "jumping of the shark" for POV films. It is too cheep a technique for film makes not to use. Apollo 18 cost $5M to make and made over $30M to date. Profit is profit. As for Don't be Afraid of the Dark, I loved it. I had no problem with the fact that the father had a hard time dismissing his emotionally damaged daughter's claims of monsters under the bed. I found it was part of the realism of the film. She was rejected from her mother and has a history of psychological problems. Anyway, I enjoyed the discussion of the POV flicks. I'm looking forward to checking out The Tunnel. I've heard of it before, but forgot about it; so thanks for the reminder. |
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Post by lynn on Sept 18, 2011 19:21:24 GMT -5
I think the point Gilbert was trying to make about Apollo 18 being a jump the shark was that all horror franchises end up in space at some point when trying to get some new material in there, and this is no different. It's almost like the moment they look at each other and say "what haven't we done with found footage movies?" "Ahhh... ghosts, demons, witches, trolls, monsters..." "what about space? We haven't done space yet." I don't think Apollo 18 brought anything new to the table.
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Post by Scary Gary on Sept 18, 2011 20:52:37 GMT -5
From that point of view, I can agree. From the point of view that POV movies are all played out from now on, that is where I disagree. Thanks for helping clear that up.  |
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Post by lynn on Sept 19, 2011 0:29:11 GMT -5
I completely agree with you that there's more material left to be done in found footage movies. It's all about people having to be innovative on small budgets and make scares from nothing. that's always going to bring out people with ideas, so I think they've still got potential.
In fact we may even see more found footage movies in space, who knows? There may be things out there more dangerous than moon rocks.
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Post by Gilberto on Sept 19, 2011 16:41:01 GMT -5
After Blair Witch I thought we wouldn't see any more of these, but now the formula's been repeated enough to become a genre. I just think they may have done all they can do now. But who knows? Maybe there's another Cloverfield out there.
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Post by Scary Gary on Sept 19, 2011 17:23:53 GMT -5
I was hoping that they would merge with mockumentaries and form a hybrid. Similar to what Cannibal Holocaust was supposed to be. With a narrator/introduction voice over; it could be explained that this footage has been found and edited to tell the story.
If I'm not mistaken, The Last Broadcast may have had a bit of that format. Been too long since I've seen it.
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Post by lynn on Sept 19, 2011 18:30:09 GMT -5
The Tunnel has that format. I think it helps iron out the believability of the finding of the footage that happens to work perfectly as a film.
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Post by Scary Gary on Sept 20, 2011 17:50:24 GMT -5
The Tunnel has that format. I think it helps iron out the believability of the finding of the footage that happens to work perfectly as a film. Cool! All the more reason for me to check it out. |
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Post by Gilberto on Sept 21, 2011 18:25:57 GMT -5
Yeah, I think the Tunnel found a believable way to tell the story. The problem with Apollo 18 was not the format, it was the story. Production wise, they had the opportunity to elevate the subgenre.
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Post by lynn on Sept 21, 2011 19:50:01 GMT -5
Yeah, for me it took too long to get to the space crabs and then it went off kilter too quickly afterwards. I didn't even watch the first half hour or so of it. But when the crabs arrived I was interested enough that the format didn't bother me at all.
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Post by Gilberto on Sept 24, 2011 7:14:01 GMT -5
Why's it so hard to make space scary? Only Alien has ever done it, and Ridley Scott's about to reverse that (if rumor is to be believed) with the production of a prequel. Technically Cameron undid the scariness of Alien by making the sequel an action flick, but at least that movie was a landmark in its own right.
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Post by wilson on Sept 26, 2011 9:01:55 GMT -5
Apparently you've never seen Hellraiser 4, sir.
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Post by broox on Sept 27, 2011 20:19:12 GMT -5
um... Jason X?? HELLO!!
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Post by lynn on Sept 28, 2011 19:06:02 GMT -5
Brooks I don't know if you're making the case for or against space being scary?
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