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Post by Scary Gary on Feb 20, 2012 20:26:15 GMT -5
If the VHS tapes of the 80's can go HD and 16:9, why can't 8mm?  Sorry, that thought just made me vomited in my mouth a little. |
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Post by broox on Feb 21, 2012 11:24:30 GMT -5
That's not strange at all. No, I understand what's going on, it's a demon with a fifteen seconds of fame complex, this is all part of its master plan to get its own reality show. Right? Now that you mention it, that would make a great reality show. Get some flaky people together, the kind that see ghosts everywhere, and have them stay in a house rigged to do creepy stuff... I'm a genius! |
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Post by broox on Feb 21, 2012 11:30:33 GMT -5
If the VHS tapes of the 80's can go HD and 16:9, why can't 8mm? Sorry, that thought just made me vomited in my mouth a little. And if they go back far enough they can do daguerreotypes. It is hard to imagine somebody setting up 8mm cameras to capture stuff, they don't hold that much film, but I wouldn't put it past these guys. Also I think having the grandmother be the witch who caused it has kind of spoiled any chances of prequels, but again I wouldn't put it past these guys. All that said, I didn't hate the movie. I haven't hated any of them really. They're just kind of disappointing. |
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Post by Gilberto on Feb 29, 2012 13:16:33 GMT -5
I liked the 3rd one a lot better than the 2nd, but there are some formula issues both with the format and the story.
First, the opening where they film themselves finding the VHS tapes is tedious. It makes the concept unbelievable from the start. I like the camera setups for the most part, with the oscillating living room cam and everything, but the scenes where they film themselves watching the tape drive me crazy. Why would you do that? Especially since he's filming himself at an editing bay presumably editing the footage into something. But if he's filming himself editing the movie, then how does that footage make it into the edit? And if he's not editing the movie in these scenes, then what the hell is he doing?
And from a story perspective, here's an awkward conversation: Convincing your girlfriend to let you put a camera in her little girls' room so you can film them while they sleep.
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Post by lynn on Feb 29, 2012 18:58:29 GMT -5
Mmmm, but on the other hand, how about the conversation where I convince her to put cameras everywhere in the house except in the little girls' bedroom at night? Because there might be goings on there that you don't want to see? Hmm? I think it may be more reassuring if your little girls are having night terrors to have your boyfriend offer to tape to find out what's going on. Because in that situation he'd be the first person you'd suspect.
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Post by broox on Feb 29, 2012 21:29:58 GMT -5
I'm surprised you like 3 a lot better than 2, I thought they were about the same. Did the nonsense about the grandmother witch not bother you? It nearly ruined the whole thing for me.
Also, I guess she "brainwashes" the girls to forget it all somehow, but what about the mom's friends and step dad's friends? We know his assistant and the babysitter are aware of what's going on. They never ask what happened to those people? And the grandmother burns down their house but takes all the vhs tapes and keeps them in her basement for years and years?
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Post by Gilberto on Mar 2, 2012 17:15:07 GMT -5
I think I tuned the ending out. 2 was bad throughout, but I appreciated elements of this one. The biggest problem with both is that neither of them are scary.
The POV also doesn't work. Sometimes sequences go on way too long and are really boring to give it the authentic feel of raw footage, but at other times it's clearly edited to move the story along. You can't have both. Some of these scenes would have been edited out if this were a finished work, and some of these scenes would have never been there at all. You can't have it both ways; you have to commit to the concept of where the footage supposedly comes from.
I think they get a lot of things right, like the lack of music and the absence of camera moves builds suspense because you're sure something is happening or about to happen that you're missing. But then nothing happens and you feel cheated.
This is why I appreciate what they did with Chronicle. It wasn't supposed to be recovered footage that was pieced together by somebody after the fact; they were just telling the story from the POV of all these different devices.
The new Hellraiser has a really bad POV device too, by the way. They keep falling back on stupid home movie footage that isn't believable or helpful. That movie was all kinds of awful.
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